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I hate product management reddit I feel the same way. This. First go in with this philosophy…. I’d look at PMs and think the same! As an engineer I have a tangible work product that needs to be delivered whereas my impression of our product folks is they’re in meetings talking about things but don’t necessarily have the short term deliverables a dev has. Product’s job is to give away credit when things go well and take on blame when things go bad. Just some perspective from the other I think I have a reasonable set of transferable skills. We’re a user assistance startup that offers tools to product people which make software easier to use. Not every project manager does product management. Before that a project manager. Each time I make a roadmap for a presentation with leadership, I feel like I’m just throwing a bunch of random features that could happen past this quarter and that sound like a Some element of the project management, business analysis and scrum master is part of the overall product manager role. First, it depends what product you manage. I’m not sure how common this issue is amongst other companies. I hate saying no and being told no constantly for things that make so much strategic sense to do, but people want more details on the business case. Secondly futz around with some coding courses and side projects to get their perspective. Take some time. Ps, the Udemy course for the PMP test in taking has a huge section on agile and the test itself spends more time on that than on traditional waterfall. This review analyzes and draws a Most discussions about product management are about how product management is such a "hot field" and discussing why product management is so awesome rather than discussing product strategy itself. Second, if you're hellbent on web/mobile apps, I'd think more about WHY you hate design. My biggest gripe with product management is other product managers. It often strikes me as a deeply "bullshit" field in the technical sense of meaningless corporate jobs (see the book "Bullshit Jobs". But every product manager does project management. 5 years. But, to be honest, the scrum master ROLE itself can be done either by a project manager or a product manager. ) And another aspect of the role: Yes; there are Product Managers working on world hunger. I won't take a product role unless I'm rolling up my sleeves and working directly with the people building stuff. There are a lot of burn out signals there. Then, finally, you have the actual end users of the product - the people entering their time cards, or expense reports, or filling out PTO requests, ordering new equipment, etc. I also came from an engineering background… I also hate the things you describe . The amount of fart sniffing is unbearable in this industry, people calling themselves mini CEOs and doing podcasts where they waffle on for 2 and a half hours about how to strategically tidy up a backlog. We’re launching a new AI assistant called Copilot. I don't have a IT qualification (just business) so it would be a massive commitment to go back to uni to change careers – plus I risk coming back to a product team and realising its product Mar 25, 2024 ยท A product manager’s revealing post Introduction With personal anecdotes and humor, the “Unhinged” rant is a well-written critique of product management. Most of these product managers and BAs don’t even have the basic skills required for doing anything on their own and all they end up doing is setting up an endless loop of meetings for requirements, scope and status. I can talk to conceptualizing and running projects, bringing groups to consensus, and presentation skills. I hate the politics. Now, I see that there is a Product Manager, Project Manager, BA, BSA and a Subject matter expert for every small project. I hate product management. You have a sales team, design team and marketing team at your disposal. My company requests we build roadmaps for 4 quarters at a time and have them be release version and feature based. Just some perspective from the other First, it depends what product you manage. I would not recommend product management to anyone. Engineer here transitioning to product. If you follow this no matter what internal arguments you guys have there will be respect and not hate. I'd like to do coding. I've never come across an egotistical Product Manager, but I'd imagine they wouldn't be well-received in the places I've been. You can get away with not knowing much about design if you're focused on an API or data feed product. No idea how I got here but feels like I must have oversold myself somehow but still being told I am doing well in my roles. It makes sense that therr are dedicated project managers and business analysts. Most product managers would benefit from reviewing The product is incredibly boring though, although quite essential to most peoples lives so that's where I try to find the purpose. …At least with my current role. I hate constantly arguing with other teams about boundaries. I have an MBA and I’ve been working with a product manager title for 3 years (total 8 years of work experience). Sometimes we are just super lucky If they cared about the product, they would constantly challenge accepted assumptions, challenge the management ideas, run experiments that would test common beliefs around the product, Form grand unifying philosophy about the customer, pay attention to trends in the industry, document good changes in competitors' products. You say you like working with users, yet you say you hate design ("don't really care very much about UI"). I am going to look for a smaller company, where engineering and product have to work together fast and figure it out, without all the formal process and documentation. I’ll take my down d00ts accordingly. Went from recruiter to project manager, program manager, sr. Marketing manager, associate product manager and now lead an entire e commerce team within 2. Respond like a product manager: Ask clarifying questions, focus on the goal, communicate with multiple teams, etc. amdwt rxhtt otq ridjoz nqlvrz kvus qymtcncn hnclb gnkf uwp |
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